Self-exclusion from bookmakers works on paper only

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S.A
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Am about to go out and to give my local bookmakers a piece of my mind.

I have been excluded from these places for a long time but I have never been "challenged in any way" since I started going back in or to put it another way "since my addiction took over".

Surely the onus should not be 100% on the ADDICTED gambler not to go in.

Clearly things are all a bit raw for me at the moment but the reality in my mind is this...

"self-exclsuion is fine on paper but irrelevant in practice and almost completely unenforced".

What do others think?

 
Posted : 26th November 2018 12:07 pm
Odaat81
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I get the sentiment. And in reality it should work. However, if you think about the quick turnover of customers and staff on different shifts etc, then it's really difficult to enforce.
The best form of self exclusion is your resolve not to go in.

 
Posted : 26th November 2018 1:46 pm
triangle
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bump

 
Posted : 10th May 2019 1:07 am
gadaveuk
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Hi

Self-exclusion from Gambling establishments was only part of recovery and the healing process to a healthy recovery.

Simply I could not trust myself with excessive money.

Yet I needed to understand what was my money needs each day.

For me to have limited access was going to help me value money and value myself more.

To exchange all unhealthy habits in to healthy one at a time.

For me to learn from each time I broke out gambling.

Every action has consequences, every unhealthy action has unhealthy consequences,every healthy action has healthy consequences, it takes much to take baby steps and become healthier once more.

Only once I abstain could the healing f my pains could start.

My thinking that I hurt other people and that I did not hurt myself was not true, I was lying to myself.

My addictions were a form of self abuse, it would take time to get wise and and be honest with myself.

If some one walked up to me and held a gun to my head would I not feel the pains and my fears.

Every unhealthy action has unhealthy consequences.

Love and peace to every one

Dave L

AKA Dave of Beckenham

 

 
Posted : 10th May 2019 4:38 am
triangle
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🙂 nicely put dave

 
Posted : 10th May 2019 4:05 pm
gadaveuk
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Thank you

 
Posted : 10th May 2019 4:06 pm
Joydivider
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Hi

Thay worked for me but I agree that its like asking people who push onto addicts to take a look at their own behaviour. Its like asking drug pushers to be concerned for the health of the punters

Its not going to be 100% enforced. The simple logistics of overworked staff who need punters to pay their wages will see to that. The staff dont want to think of themselves as causing harm although clearly they must see the damage its doing to gamblers

However it did draw a line for me and I made sure that the staff I regularly saw knew who I was.

I was prepared to step up my blocks if I started breaking the exclusions so it is in the main self motivated. Then again it did draw a line of shame for me as I wouldnt want to think I could be recognised or that they might not pay out. In the early days it was mainly the feeling that they would not pay out (as if I ever won anything)

You should mention this to the gambling authorities as this needs tightening up with the threat of serious fines.

I think there should be a registration process to gamble which would make it difficult to gamble while self excluded.

The problems run deep. I think deregulated gambling is a major scandal. The problem is that everybody up to the top is skimming tax off it.

You have to concentrate on your situation because unfortunately the gambling dens are not going away any time soon

Best wishes from everyone on the forum

This post was modified 5 years ago by Joydivider
 
Posted : 15th May 2019 6:10 pm
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Inspite of what ive said before it feels like self-exclusion is finally starting to work for me.  As Joydivider says... you have to concentrate on your own situation and this ive been doing. Ive excluded myself from 2 more bookmakers as my gambling head started to think about going there and when I think this way it normally becomes reality.

The main block for me with self-exclusion is the thought of not being paid out if I win. Cos on the one hand I know that I can walk in to most of the bookmakers ive been excluded from and gamble without being challenged cos lets face it... how often do you see staff looking at there devices to find excluded people.. not very often. BUT the thought of walking in and gambling and having a lucky win and then walking up to the counter and a staff member saying... "o hold on a minute, I notice that you are excluded...."... that would drive me nuts. So psychologically its starting to work for me....

Thanks for listening

 
Posted : 18th June 2019 10:45 am

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