“Gamble responsibly”

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(@jfield13)
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If only it was that easy. 

 
Posted : 7th September 2019 7:31 pm
TraceyJ
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I read your post earlier, did you get through the day ok?

 
Posted : 7th September 2019 8:48 pm
Joydivider
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The most irresponsible thing you can do with money but they advise us to do it responsibly.

Its the most offensive, casual, twee advice and the gambling dens dont really mean it. It seems to absolve them of all responsibility in pushing the deadly drug of gambling.

Oh we have done our bit..we told them to gamble responsibly...no worries there then. Its like asking a drug dealer to hand out advice pamphlets on the street corner......its a nonsense and they know it.

The bottom line is thats its never a responsible act and its highly addictive...its the most devil may care thing to do and thats part of the endorphin hook which ruins people.

Best wishes to everyone on the forum

 
Posted : 7th September 2019 9:31 pm
holycrosser
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But most people can bet responsibility to be fair?

 
Posted : 8th September 2019 6:38 am
(@jfield13)
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Hi Tracey, yes I got through the day ok, was tempted a few times, hopefully it gets easier but I doubt it. 

 
Posted : 8th September 2019 8:40 am
(@jfield13)
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There’s probably a lot of people would disagree with that. 

 
Posted : 8th September 2019 8:42 am
holycrosser
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Posted by: Jfield13

There’s probably a lot of people would disagree with that. 

Only on here, most people can have a bet and it never can become a problem 

 
Posted : 8th September 2019 11:49 am
Joydivider
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Posted by: holycrosser
Posted by: Jfield13

There’s probably a lot of people would disagree with that. 

Only on here, most people can have a bet and it never can become a problem 

Ok I know what you are saying but weve got to put it in context. I can have a cigarette once in a blue moon or the very occasional drink but both carry government health warnings (like the government really care with all the tax they collect on it)

They may be accepted within society but neither of those substances are healthy.

Gambling should also carry a health warning in my view

I think the gambling addiction problem is going exponential. The machines in particular are designed to create addicts as that raises maximum revenue. I reckon most people I saw in the bookies were addicts.

You couldnt really call my father a gambler but he is drawn to his weekly lottery ticket...ok its not a financial problem but even at those odds he is still drawn in to the dream. Point is the hook is there and its easy to see how people become addicted to any form of gambling

You might call be biased as a problem gambler but I firmly see gambling for what it is and the dens offering odds firmly in their favour.

Its not a wholesome activity and is considered immoral by religions. All more than a bit seedy isnt it really? I wont call it an industry because all in all I think its a scam.

Bit of harmless fun for some? Well obviously I am long past being sympathetic to that point of view. I see the abject misery it creates on here and its more than an eye opener to the scale of the problem

Best wishes to everyone on the forum

 
Posted : 9th September 2019 4:19 am
S.A
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I think responsible gamble is a joke. The industry and government knows that a a certain percentage of the population will struggle to control there behaviour for all the usual internal and external factors. They also know that despite the sickening pictures on cigarette packets this will never stop a certain percentage of the population smoking. Also you could hand out healthy living leaflets untill the cows come home but a certain percentage of the population are still going to eat unhealthy food and get fat.

The only way to stop gambling, smoking and food addicts is to remove the offending products from the market. But this is never going to happen because of revenue and money... simples!

The only reason that they have a war on class A drugs is that they addict people too quickly.... the goverment and corporations prefer to addict people slowly and subtley so that we don't really notice whats really going on. Its only when a problem becomes "acute" that any action to remove "that product" is taken at all. Action on the 100 fobt stake in the bookies was only taken when the problem became acute. But notice that they didn't take the machines out all together did they!? There is no healthy reason for any slot machines to exist. They are designed to addict.

Am doing my best to wake up to all the evil that is inficted upon human kind.. but its not easy is it

 
Posted : 9th September 2019 10:04 am
Joydivider
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Posted by: S.A

The only reason that they have a war on class A drugs is that they addict people too quickly.... the goverment and corporations prefer to addict people slowly and subtley so that we don't really notice whats really going on. Its only when a problem becomes "acute" that any action to remove "that product" is taken at all. Action on the 100 fobt stake in the bookies was only taken when the problem became acute. But notice that they didn't take the machines out all together did they!? There is no healthy reason for any slot machines to exist. They are designed to addict.

That is the core truth and what it all revolves around. Very well said!

Class A drugs are a step too far or those would be also be taxed and made widely available.

Gambling drinking and smoking are the acceptable faces of addiction. I believe its 80% tax on a packet of cigarettes and also high on spirits. Never mind that they are both addictive and dangerous to health.

Gambling os also highly dangerous to health but I know its the least understood of the main addictive activities. With the tax revenue rolling in, thats the way the authorities want it. To be blunt we are seen as the acceptable war casualties to keep the whole shebang rolling

If there is money to be made dont ever believe that the government care about people. I've dealt with government departments for years and believe me they dont care one stuff about you unless something is really going to rock the boat for them.

Best wishes to everyone on the forum

 

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Posted : 9th September 2019 10:19 pm
S.A
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....and isn't it interesting what is happening with smoking... we are slowly being drawn away from tobacco.. as it gradually becomes more socially unexceptable... and introduced to Vaping!?. What the f**k??

.... and yes, no surprise, its NOT just water vapour with something that smells nice.... it is, of course, full of just as many trace chemicals as tobacco is. 

Ive just watched a report about it... people are starting to die (before there time) because of vaping. people are becoming addicted to vaping with no proper understanding of what they are taking into there lungs. I bet the people that make these products know whats going on... the aim being to slowly addict people and sell more product.

 
Posted : 11th September 2019 10:45 am
Muststop123
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Related to the "Gamble Responsibly"campaign the gambling companies pretend to support, I happened to catch part of a tea-time quiz on television yesterday that is on the main commercial channel and is sponsored by one of the major online gambling brands.

As part of the adverts it has a little section saying they are happy to sponsor the programme and shows some happy smiling gamblers. Then at the end it flashed up for the very barest fraction of a second a sign about stopping when the fun stops. It was ridiculous - it was up on screen for such a small amount of time that I almost missed it. I had to wait for the next set of adverts to check it had not been a mistake but sure enough it was just flashed up for the merest fraction of a second again.

I am sure they manage to comply with all the advertising regulations by flashing up the warning at the end but it just goes to show how little they really need to do to be able to say they support responsible gambling. Of course there is little money to be made from responsible gamblers. 

After my recent relapse I did question an online casino how their responsible gambling policy applied when I was able to gamble away well over the average annual salary in under an hour without any intervention from them. I did not get an answer nor did I expect one, I was really just looking for someone else to blame when I was a bit emotional. It was obviously my fault which I accept now but their basic response was that they did everything they were required to do which suggests they are required to do very little. 

Anyone who believes any of the gambling companies are going to do anything but the barest minimum they are legally required to do to help anyone to gamble responsibly is going to be disappointed. Best option is obviously not to gamble but if you must then don't believe you are dealing with anything other than the devil when it comes to these businesses.   

 

 
Posted : 11th September 2019 2:43 pm

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