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#1 Posted on:
Wed, 18/04/2018 - 18:45

Onepunchjamoo

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I've been gambling for years lost a lot (tens of thousands in a single day once) Ive been with my girlfriend for 4 months and I was in debt and taking out loans and she took out a loan to help me out and I gambled most of what she gave me. I owe her about £1000 and she's very cool about it but we just had a mini argument because my mum gave me £20 today to pay my cineworld card and I lost it and she's saying I should of given it to her because she's looking after me which is completely true and I just feel pathetic, I'm not working really struggling to find a job because no one will hire me as I've worked most places in the town where I live and quit due to me losing my wages week after week. I have things I need to pay and no regular income so when I get money I feel gambling is my only option.. just feeling really down and there's nothing I can do to change it right now..

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Wed, 18/04/2018 - 19:12

caughtup

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Don’t gamble... it isn’t the answer! Be Strong Hun! You can do this, show her how strong you are! Be grateful you have a lovely girlfriend that is standing by and helping you through xx

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Wed, 18/04/2018 - 19:13

adam123

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My advice would be to get the blocks in place so when you do get a job u cant gamble ur paycheques.

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Wed, 18/04/2018 - 19:16

adam123

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Try to block internet gambling on your phone and pc, ring to self exclude from local bookies, join sense scheme so u cant go in a casino. Then give your pay to a loved one once uve paid bills to look after. Ive done all this and it is finally working, good luck

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Thu, 19/04/2018 - 00:41

Onepunchjamoo

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Thanks for the advice guys.
Deep down I know gambling isn't the answer, it just feels that ways with my current situation. I am so lucky to have the girlfriend I have, j just want to help out more and spoil her because she's been really amazing about my gambling even when I let her down time and time again.
I think the blocks would just slow me down and make me more desperate, there's SO many bookies around and so many sites, I've blocked myself from a few of the biggest sites and regret it Tobe honest because I enjoyed some of the games and ease of used, I just need to work on my self control I think. I've calmed down a lot from earlier but I know I need to seriously cut down and gain self control at the least.

Thanks for the advice caught up and Adam

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Thu, 19/04/2018 - 07:53

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Thu, 19/04/2018 - 09:03

Onepunchjamoo

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I've just woke up and it's a sunny day so I'll reply to this later but thanks, you're right, I don't mind people being blunt, I prefer it to ***** footing around what you're trying to say. I appreciate the time you've taken to try help so I'll respond in kind. Have a good day.

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Thu, 19/04/2018 - 10:46

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Fri, 20/04/2018 - 09:50

Onepunchjamoo

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I do need to stop gambling and hangs my perception of money, I almost didn't even do free gambling yesterday because I was busy in the sun all day.

The thing with me is I pretty much always win, I just get greedy so it's not like I just lose and I don't achieve what I set out to, that's what annoys me.

I agree my addiction is intense but I think I'm past the worst of it to be honest, years ago I was in thousands of pounds of debt and asking people for £1 in town to gamble and going prison over minor things trying to gamble more and I'm nowhere near that now.

Gambling definitely messes with people's self esteem but it's just one of them I guess

I don't have the means to just move, I'm broke and my credit report is terrible, I'm happy with where I live anyway. In February I won a lot, paid off a £420 bill my mum was behind on, gave my girlfriend a few hundred, paid like £400 of my own debt, spent couple hundred on clothes and trainers, had a few takeaways, did some foods shops for my mum and girlfriend, but I got too greedy and blew £800 2 days in a row, that's the thing I love when I have money and can help people I care about and then I just do insane bets, if I could keep my cool I legit believe I'd be able to have a steady income until they probably band me because bookies hate winners. But yeah I'm not that person so I guess I need to see that.

The hard facts seem good but when I spend time planning to become better and I fail.. I just feel so much worse and so stupid.

Don't worry you're not coming across a preachy tool, just like you genuinely care and you legit hate what gambling has done to us all.

I know I come across delusional still lol it's just if you saw how lucky I was you might get it aha.

Yeah a lot of the time I need to just be left alone after a big loss, rather isolate than spread the negative vibes.

Thanks though mate you speak sense and you've all helped me on this bump in the road

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Fri, 20/04/2018 - 12:16

valdab

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Onepuchjamoo....I dont think you really understand the gambling addiction process. Yes you win...you win alot...but you cant walk away. That is the full gambling cycle....the last part of the process is that you cant walk away when you win.You will ALWAYS go back to win more or chase the losses. That does not make you silly or stupid or greedy...these are not the reasons that you cannot walk away when you win. The real reason is that you are a gambling ADDICT and this is how the gambling addiction roles....you cant walk away. So yes...I do think you are still in the denial stage and delusional. You think you are not...you think you can win and walk away. You cant my friend...and you WONT...no matter how much you think you will the next time.This is the thought process when you are in full blown addiction stage...and that is why you think this way.We all win sometimes...I have won many many many times...and big amounts too. Many times I have blown a grand...been so sick about it...then put in another grand to win it back. And yes...many many many times I have managed to come back from losing a grand by chasing it with another...some times down to my last spin of the wheel...and wooohooo yeesss I am back in the game...jeez I am over the moon, I am soooo happy with myself for spending the extra grand to get my original one back. Im great...im buzzing...Im soooo relieved...Ive done it...pheeeew I could have been 2 grand down...but Im good...Im so good that I risked it..it paid off and now Im up...Finally Im up. Thank god. I couldnt have afforded to lose that money so thank god I was 'sensible' enough to go back and win my money back. And then what....I think its ok now...Im on a lucky streak...I will just bet 100 of it now and I will walk.If I have only lost 100 and not 2k...then that cool. But guess what...I just lost 100...surely another 100 will get that back. Hey...I managed to come back from losing almost 2k...getting a 100 back will be easy. And off we go...on a downward sprial. The 2k is now gone...OMG I cant beleive it...I was up...how the heck did I let that happen. I was UP...I was winning...I DID win. And now...OMG how stupid am I...I cant believe I did this...why didnt I just walk away. Why did I have to be so greedy.I won! I was Up! Next time I gamble...I WILL walk away...I WILL.  I have absouely no doubt this is your thought process. I know it is how you think...because you are a gambling addict just like myself...and this is how WE ALL think. Our minds are taken over by this addiction...we are no longer in control. You are delusional to think you are in control and it will be differnet next time...if only you can control yourself and walk away. You cannot walk away...becaue your mind is out of control at that time with this addiction. You need to try somehow to really understand the addiction process. It is a process...it is a progressive disease/illness...the starting point may be different for everyone...but the end result is ALWAYS the same...for EVERYONE who is a compulsive gambler. Please try and read more on here...listen to other people stories...you are not special...their gambling addiction is not different from yours. You may think that you are somehow different...you are the same...we are all the same.

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Fri, 20/04/2018 - 13:24

andyrr

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Sorry - have to pick out a few statements from your post.....

> The thing with me is I pretty much always win

> I know I come across delusional still lol it's just if you saw how lucky I was you might get it aha.

The two above statements don't seem to agree with other aspects of your post like the below.....
>  I'm broke and my credit report is terrible,

I'm broke and my credit report is terrible doesn't sound like you're lucky......As valdab says, it's important to realise what's happening otherwise you'll keep going back.  We're all in the same boat.  Hope you can find support and good advice here.

Andy.

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Fri, 20/04/2018 - 15:49

Joydivider

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I know its hard onepunchjamoo but gambling is not an income scheme and its not the answer to what you seek.

You pretty much always win do you? Pray tell us on what odds and doing what? Its a deadly addiction and you need to understand it more. as valdab says its a crazy deluded thought process as the addiction takes control and we cant walk away.

You need a born again moment where you realise whats important and your girlfriend and family may be the only good thing you have out of all of this.

We have all been at this early stage of confusion. You talk about the upsides when you have money but we can see that you are in debt and on this forum.

Its a deadly form of mind control and dopamine addiction. It will ruin you if you continue. The gambling dens have not got an income scheme worked out for you. I dont agree with gambling but at very best it should only be a form of light entertainment.... one bet then walk away. However problem gamblers have to enter a full recovery and reach out for all the help on offer

As A compulsive gambler I couldnt walk away and I ignored the odds. Anything that did come out was never regular or enough. I was actually playing for escape and the feeling of playing. That feeling was not much more than a numb trance in the later stages of my addiction

I mean it that you need to stop gambling....are you ready to do that?

You need to sit down and write down what income you have and what you have been gambling away. There is no point playing the big man and there is no shame in admitting that it got to you. I think you know the wins are much rarer than the losing streaks.

The truth is we cant trust ourselves when addicted. Your girlfriend sounds right and I am just giving you food for thought which you may thank me for one day. 

Being gamble free is a wonderful feeling of control.

Best wishes from everyone on the forum

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Sat, 21/04/2018 - 09:59

Onepunchjamoo

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2018-03-23

I see what you're saying, the thought process is very much like that and I get that we are all the same and I'm not special and everyone has big wins and that, it's definitely a greed thing with me though, I won £2000 off two footy bets and then on my first spin on roulette won another grand, then because of greed I lost it, I don't see the amount I win I see what I star with and I didn't start playing for a 50% profit. Unless I do something like I did recently and win £180 off £2 then I see the money even though I've made a 9000% profit which was from a free game. But there's times where I can just walk, small periods where I'll play and I'll be ok with a couple of hundred every day and I'll spend a bit and keep a bit to play on. I'm not in debt with any companies, just with my girlfriend and my credit score isn't something I'm bothered about right now as is stops me even trying to get loans and I'm not in a position to get s mortgage so it's whatever.
When I say I'm lucky I mean I literally always am up, like if I walked when normal people would, I wouldn't have to work, if I just lost and lost and was never up I'd probably be more inclined to stop gambling. I mostly play roulette, it's the quickest and I just get a feeling a number will come, put more on it and it usually comes.

Again I know I sound delusional but I'm just saying facts, almost every time I gamble I get up relatively quickly, I am a greedy person, if I walked when I was up I'd be fine...

But it's also a fact I'm a gambling addict which makes it extremely difficult I know.

I have a very open mind so I believe it's possible to get to the stage I could walk but I'm aware it's not easy as I have a problem.

I don't even have a income to sit down and write about..

I appreciate all this advice and your insights but with my current situation with no income and my difficulty finding work gambling is just what I need to be honest for the short term anyway.

I enjoy gambling, I think we all do we just don't like the result sometimes, it's like if you go on reviews for a gambling site people that loss review it negatively but everyone can't win it makes no sense and it's not about playing he longest or making the most bets or buying the most tickets or whatever, people have to lose for people to win, I understand it all I just want to be able to control myself and withdraw when I'm up and then walk, maybe have a little part time job for regular income.

I know I probably come across as delusional,stupid and annoying but for now it's just how I feel.

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Sat, 21/04/2018 - 15:19

Progress

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You have received a lot of sound advice here and you should re-read some of it and try and take it on board. I’m not trying to be harsh but you talk a lot of nonsense in the post above. We have all turned small sums into large figures on occasions but we always put it back in and more ontop. When I was frustrated after a big loss I’d search for anything to blame but myself, I was unwilling to take responsibility. I’m sure me and you are multiple thousands down lifetime so you really do need to let go of this belief that you are good at gambling. I used to think that too, I believed I was able to consistently predict somewhat random results. Gambling doesn’t take skill, we are mugs and it’s your choice if you continue to play on.

You seem thoroughly attached to gambling, I understand as I’ve been struggling to diminish my relationship with this nasty pastime for a large chunk of my early adulthood, I can’t allow this poop to define my entire life.

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Sat, 21/04/2018 - 16:53

Onepunchjamoo

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2018-03-23

Exactly, we're all capable of winning loads we just need to not be greedy and learn to walk away. I'm not claiming to be the only one who wins, I know that most problem gamblers win we just don't walk but if we did... We could turn gambling into a useful tool. Gambling isn't bad, it's a business, people are bad. It's entertainment like any other but you have the potential to get money back.. I believe gambling takes a small but of skill and guts along with persistence.

I agree though I'm happy with the advice given, I think you've all been helpful and don't worry about sounding harsh, I'm not a sensitive person. I just think I'm a bit more open minded about being able to gamble in moderation and it not being inherently bad. if everyone gambled moderately and what they could afford to then the bookies can still take their percentage and a few people could win some money, us addicts just need to learn self control or like most people will suggest on here, cut it out all together, me personally I'd like tobe able to do the lotto every week, maybe £5 on footy and £20 on roulette and be able to just live my life if I lose on them all.

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Sat, 21/04/2018 - 17:50

Joydivider

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We will talk frankly onepunchjamoo because we actually care about you unlike the gambling industry. You seem highly addicted and not ready to stop.

Nobody here can force you to stop and you are making the decisions. Einstein said there is no system on roulette and nobody is offering you daily lifechanging odds on Manchester United vs the grannies 11.

That may sound silly or flippant but Im just trying to drum home what the odds are and what gambling is really all about. Nobody here is saying that money doesnt come this way. What we are saying is that once we have crossed the line into uncontrolled gambling its extremely difficult to recover with willpower alone.

Sure people win but dont let that reinforce the idea its a nice little earner. Enough people lose and that ratio is needed to maintain the lifestyle of the gambling barons.

You might think you are in control and then you have a blow out when your mind takes over based on adrenaline, dopamine, shame, fear greed or whatever in the soup of emotions.

You do read as quite casual about it. If gambling could be turned into a useful tool who would go to work?  You talk about gambling not being bad. Im not having a dig but I sense your girlfriend may know more about the whole story then we do. Am I wrong?

Yes greed plays a part but its not the only reason. We can all think there is a bit more where this came from and before we know it the bank account is empty and the credit card maxed out.

When I came to this forum I was at my wits end having gambled everything away and an addiction that I have had over forty years. I felt I was ready to stop but it took me another 10 months to take the right blocking steps.

Its up to you..we can only hope to change your mind. We are not being anal or square about it..we know that gambling destroys people in the grip of an addiction

Best wishes from everyone on the forum

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Sat, 21/04/2018 - 18:11

Onepunchjamoo

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2018-03-23

I'm not saying I have a system but in my personal experience it doesn't take long to win hundreds on roulette, it's just a spin away.. Einstein didn't know everything but I know that roulette is made in a way there's no bet that you can keep spinning that will have you win every time. Just takes a lucky accumulator to win you a couple thousand as well.

I agree it's difficult which is why I struggle to control myself and walk away. Just because people don't do something, doesn't mean it can't be done.

Gambling is a form of entertainment, as people we allow ourselves to get addicted which is our fault but the act of gambling is innocent.

I get what you're all trying to say but open your minds, are you telling me it's impossible for me to start walking away and settling with like £500 a week? I'm not asking if it's likely or easy, but just tell me if you think it's possible..
Anyone who says no needs to open their minds in my opinion but we all have our own opinions and if you don't agree that fine but I'm not saying anything that's not possible.

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Sat, 21/04/2018 - 18:37

Bryan

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I’m going to be frank too. This is a forum for people who want to stop gambling . Not for people who are just temporarily stopping because they are not winning at the moment . If you want to stop we will do our best to help you . If you want to carry on and don’t think you want to stop or are not contemplating stopping then this isn’t the forum for you . Glorifying it isn’t helpful to other members you have to respect that 

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Sat, 21/04/2018 - 19:08

Onepunchjamoo

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I want to learn to live with it, at times I'd like to stop then I think 'well I enjoy it.. I should be able to do this without it having a negative effect'? Why does there have to only be one option? If you want to lose weight, do you stop your intake of calories or do you cut down and eat in moderation? I don't believe completely cutting out something you enjoy is good for your health. I'm not glorifying gambling, just saying it can be played in moderation and be enjoyable if you're able to manage your greed/urge to keep playing.
I respect other people on here that's why I've only said this is my thread.

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Sat, 21/04/2018 - 19:15

Bryan

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Thanks for the reply . You need to do what’s right for you . You know your gambling has caused you problems and something has led you to this site . If it was as easy as everyone being able to gamble a little and what they can afford there wouldn’t be a need for this site . The facts are we can’t . We all have an illness that has cost us a lot more than just money in our lives . You do what works for you , but if you are still intent on gambling , it kind of contradicts what this site is about . If you are not ready now at least you know where this site is and how to engage . I will put my neck on the line here and say if you don’t stop now , the Jamoo that will return here will be in a much darker place than he is now . Gambling doesn’t solve anything for the compulsive gambler , just creates more problems . Good luck whatever you decide to do

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Sat, 21/04/2018 - 19:40

Onepunchjamoo

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I'm not even sure myself what's best for me, I like to use this to vent and read other people's stories, like just getting it off my chest helps seeing I'm not the only one but ultimately I'd like to be at one with it and live my life and gamble like everyone else does. Everyone has bought a lotto ticket or a scratch card or gone casino.. most people at least, I'd like to be like that. You might be right, my mind is open to knowing that's a possibility but hope you're wrong
Thanks for having a conversation and not getting emotional because I know I can come across as annoying.

Wish you the best too

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Sat, 21/04/2018 - 19:46

Bryan

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You are not annoying you just come across as contradictory perhaps confused about your relationship with gambling . If you could make a living from gambling and walk away when you are up, surely you would have already done it by now . It’s not for me to tell you what you should or shouldn’t be doing , all I can try and do is call it from how I see it . I’m sure things will turn out good for you if you want them to. 

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Sat, 21/04/2018 - 20:49

Onepunchjamoo

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Just because something can be done, doesn't mean people will do it otherwise a lot of people would do a lot of things, I believe it's possible, it's just not easy, like we all agree, the greed and temptation is just SO strong but I hope to improve my will power and self control and to be less greedy and more patient.
I definitely want them too so hopefully you're right aha

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Sun, 22/04/2018 - 16:24

Progress

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You are clearly super attached to gambling and unwilling to stop, I haven’t had a bet in 3 days loool but if I was forced to it’d be on you to be back here in the foreseeable future wishing you’d listened sooner, it’s a mugs game.

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Sun, 22/04/2018 - 20:06

Joydivider

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You have to decide if you have a problem jamoo or if you just want to stop losing.

What you are saying does not tie in with your earlier comments in which you mention loads lost in a day loans and debts. Unfortunately you cant have it both ways and either gambling is harming you or it is not.

Its like when I see someone with a drinking problem. I can mention it once or twice but I cant make them stop. They need to be ready and Im not banging my head against a brick wall and taking all the worry. I couldnt live with a problem drinker or gambler so one of us would be gone

There is no system on roulette. To win enough even at 2.1 you have to risk enough and watch random chance in action. Spread betting is not a system. Roulette is causing misery for a great many people in the bookies and casinos. I would like to calculate the odds on a football accumulator because plenty of people lose time and time gain. Obviously they are not offering an easy build up or they would be out of business very quickly.

You make it sound easy which is the confusion talking. Its just a spin away...well it could be just a spin away until you have lost everything. You talk as if you are a professional gambler making 200 a day. Theres quite a few teachers and nurses who would like to know your secret.

There is a known stage of confusion where you are asking why me. What you are asking is why cant it all go right for me. You seem to dismiss the fact that the gambling dens want your money and they get it. Compulsive gamblers naturally dont like losing and they get carried away in the gambling trance

What brought you to the forum is the reality about gambling. Its very easy to become addicted and out of control. If you think it can be done with willpower alone I can only say that the advice here is tried and tested.

You need to keep learning how serious this form of mind control is. If you carry on the odds are that your debt will increase and your relationships strained to breaking point

Your decision your life and your future

Best wishes

 

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Sun, 22/04/2018 - 21:57

Progress

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Great post JD, enjoyed reading that.

You say gambling makes you feel pathetic yet you seem to love it so dearly, you seem very conflicted and perhaps in denial to the true nature of your problem.

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Sun, 22/04/2018 - 22:15

Onepunchjamoo

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2018-03-23

What odds and I'll take your bet aha?
I won £30 from nothing today so it's been a good day :)

Yeah I've lost loads and had debts but I don't currently owe any companies any more which is nice. I've already said I don't have a system I'm just very lucky and persistent.
It is easy, I've made £200 a days over numerous days easily, I've won over £1000 on my first spin multiple times.. open your mind guys just because the odds of something are high doesn't make them impossible, do you all really find it hard to believe a person can make a hundred or so daily in like 5 minutes ? If so then you're proving my luck or you gamble really slowly or in a scared manor where you put £1 max on a number.

I feel like you're you two are bringing negative energy and believe gambling can only lead to loss but that's not true. Plenty of people gamble and win and then walk away and spend it consistently.

Just think about the things I've said with OPEN minds please.

Gambling can be very serious yes, when a human that is mentally unable to gamble safely or a human who is greedy gambles but it can also be entertaining and rewarding if someone does it with a calm mind and is able to control themselves.

Thanks for the concern though and sharing your thoughts, I appreciate it :)

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Sun, 22/04/2018 - 23:19

valdab

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Onepunchjamoo...I don't think anything anyone says to you on here is going to make a difference to you because you clearly do not think you are an addict. You believe you have a problem only with gambling because you are greedy and cannot walk away. THAT IS THE PROBLEM. You have proven time and time again that you are unable to control yourself. You are too greedy and cannot walk away. How do you think you can learn to control yourself and your greed? What tactics do you think that you should use to stop being so greedy and be able to walk away with your winnings? How do you see yourself managing that control? Whats your plan to stop you being so greedy in the future?. The things that work for me is to stop gambling altogether because I wasnt able to find a way to stop myself and walk away. The thing that helps me is to block access to online gambling and to come on here and learn from others stories. Whats your plan?

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Sun, 22/04/2018 - 23:55

Onepunchjamoo

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2018-03-23

I agree that's the problem that's what I want to learn to control. They're valid questions, my plan is practice, I have to put myself in the position and give myself the chance to walk. To paraphrase God in Evan almighty, 'if we ask God for patience, does he give us patience? Or does he give us a chance to be patient?'

I have to put myself in the position to walk but I currently only play free games I don't deposit.

I understand why blocking works for most people on here but it would just slow me down and force me to find other ways of involve other people, it wouldn't work for me.

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Mon, 23/04/2018 - 00:47

valdab

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You have been 'practicing' for years already and you havent managed to crack it. You have said you always win so it looks like you have been put in that position of 'patience' that you speak of many times.Einstein says the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting  different results.Clearly you have no intention of giving up gambling. You dont want the blocks as they would slow you down. You are certainly correct...they do slow us down....they slow us down enough to so that our foggy gambling heads can have enough time to clear and re think whether we want to lose more money and continue ruining our lives. I chose to respond to people on here in the hope that I can help them somehow, whilst helping myself by reinforcing the truths about gambling addiction. I feel I am unable to help you. I think you may be best to see a professional, a councellor, who can work with you on some cognetive behavioural therapy. Changing the way we think about things  and view things can be very helpful. Its not always possible alone, sometimes professional guidance is needed. Is there anyone in your locality that you would consider going to see?

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Mon, 23/04/2018 - 06:45

Onepunchjamoo

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True, but only now am I making a serious concious effort.
If Einstein is to be believed then that makes most of us crazy and with that kind of negative feeling no one would have ever completed through the fire and flames on guitar hero 3 100%.

Like I said for a lot of people being slowed down probably helps but it would stress me out and make me do something stupid, I've tried that before and I'll always find another way like using someone else's details, I have access to 2 other people's gambling accounts.

You might be right, I'm in here because I went to my doctor in hopes of getting therapy and he sent me here. The closest face to face from gamcare is like 30 miles away as well and I'm poor and don't drive. But I'd love to try it because the way I think and the way I see money really doesn't help to be honest.

I'm quite stubborn as well which you can probably see.

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Mon, 23/04/2018 - 08:08

wittle71

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2018-04-17

Is this bloke for real ?

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Mon, 23/04/2018 - 12:24

Muststop123

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Hi Onepunchjamoo

I do not think anyone on this site can really help you as you as the advice we can give is not what you want to hear. You seem to want advice on how to be a better gambler and walk away with more of your winnings rather than stopping. You will probably have more luck on a site dedicated to gambling strategies. 

You seem determined to continue gambling and from the experience of the many on this site that is unlikely to end well for either you or your loved ones. I do struggle to understand how someone who has had to be bailed out by his girlfriend and is having difficulties finding work due to his previous gambling activities still thinks it is a good idea but trying to convince an active gambler of that is not easy as we do not see things rationally when we gamble.

All the advice above about giving up is valid and for every excuse about blocks not working there is always a stronger one but you have to want to stop so pulling blocks in place is currently probably pointless. Equally if someone does not want to really go to GA or counselling they will always find an excuse why it is too difficult.   

One thing I would ask is that you do not take anyone else down with you and wreck their lives. Your girlfriend and family deserve to know that this is your decision to continue gambling so they know how financially entangled they want to get with you and allow them to protect themselves financially. 

Keep posting. I have no ill feelings towards you because of your views, I just completely disagree with them. 

I hope one day you will decide you want to stop gambling and come to this site for help. 

Muststop123

Posted on:
Mon, 23/04/2018 - 23:06

Progress

Joined:
2018-03-15

Onepunchjamoo wrote:
If Einstein is to be believed then that makes most of us crazy and with that kind of negative feeling no one would have ever completed through the fire and flames on guitar hero 3 100%.

Hands down one of the stupidest things I’ve ever read on the internet, part of me thinks this guy might even be a troll after that.

Posted on:
Tue, 24/04/2018 - 07:33

Onepunchjamoo

Joined:
2018-03-23

I've explained about blocks, you lot don't seem to understand that it will just make me angry an then I'll join another site or find a way around it or go to the nearest bookies I can and then I'll be even angrier and probably break a machine (again) or assault staff (again) I can't explain it more than that to be honest, it's safer I don't make myself desperate.

Thanks for being mature, it's nice to talk to someone who doesn't agree with you but can still be civil and polite.

How is that stupid progress? People who can do that would of had to of played it again and again for a very long time, they'd of done the same thing and then got better until they got the result they desired. Repetition is how a lot of things are learned so I think people need to realise Einstein was just a man and not take everything he said as gospel because that specific statement definitely isn't true in my eyes, it was maybe just his opinion.

I'm going to continue playing free games every day but I won't put any money I get on, I think that's a good place to start.

Posted on:
Tue, 24/04/2018 - 09:16

davey

Joined:
Before 2009

Dude, you're sick, get help. DENIAL is the main word that springs to mind. The addiction is so strong in you that it rebuts all of the great advice you've already received on here. I fear for you as it may take years of suffering for you - decades even - before you admit to yourself how sh11t gambling really is. We've all had wins when we were gambling but consistently over time, year in year out ? just doesn't happen mate. It's a mathematical certainty that you will lose over time. These gambling houses are businesses why would they spent six / seven figures on gambling sites / premises / staff / designing & running games etc just to give you money ? Ask yourself what it is that you are really escaping from, what other problems you have (it sounds like a lot) that you are using gambling as a vehicle to escape from. Then you might begin to make a little progress.

Posted on:
Tue, 24/04/2018 - 09:44

Colt11

Joined:
2014-06-26

Without doubt a troll- hes posting for comments now.

Posted on:
Wed, 25/04/2018 - 20:10

Onepunchjamoo

Joined:
2018-03-23

Gambling isn't the problem. Like I've said I understand how business works and that casinos and sites make profits because they only give back a certain percentage and the longer you play the more likely you are to lose bla bla bla I know but nothing is CERTAIN. Someone could gamble every day for their entire life and win every day, it's not likely but it's POSSIBLE. You all have negative attitudes. I'm not escaping from anything, just trying to win easy money and live my life.

Just because I have a different opinion and I'm choosing to try live alongside gambling and I'm standing by my point, doesn't make me a troll, grow up.

I don't have an income and I currently just gamble on free games at the minute so as things stand now there isn't a problem.

Posted on:
Wed, 25/04/2018 - 20:50

PositiveAction

Joined:
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Posted on:
Wed, 25/04/2018 - 21:21

Onepunchjamoo

Joined:
2018-03-23

I feel like the positive things you're saying aren't sincere.. maybe it's not super ideal but I'm not going to be losing any of my money playing free games every day so I think it's a huge step forward..

If someone can be swayed to gamble from the things I've said then I'm sure something else would of swayed them if they didn't read any of this.

I'm gonna stop posting for a bit now, I think we've reached a stand still and I'm just getting the same responses and apparently I'm a troll so yeah.

If things work out for me I'll give and update, if they don't, I'll update that too but it will be a while.

Posted on:
Thu, 26/04/2018 - 09:01

Colt11

Joined:
2014-06-26

Sorry if my post sounded harsh.

But you come on talk about owing family and friends, talk about your credit rating been poor, talk about how you know you are a gambling addict but how you think you can do what millions of addicts cant and control it. You talk about breaking machines and assaulting staff!!!!!!! you talk about consolidating debts with loans and then spending the loans on gambling. All these are danger signs of a person with a severe problem. 

Then in the next post you have this ridiculous attitude that you can make money out of it and enjoy it.

You are your own person im sure nobody will change your mind but i would strongly urge you to speak to someone.

Posted on:
Thu, 26/04/2018 - 17:09

Onepunchjamoo

Joined:
2018-03-23

Like I said, not overly sensitive so believe what you want, I don't mind. I'm not as bad as I used to be but I acknowledge I could do the things I've done before, again. I try to keep an open mind and consider different possibilities which maybe you should try too? I get he things I say might seem ridiculous but improbable isn't impossible.

I could make money out of it, anyone could.

But yeah just playing free games right now so although I gamble occasionally it will be with free bonus winnings and small scale.

Posted on:
Thu, 26/04/2018 - 20:38

valdab

Joined:
2018-03-10

[quote=Onepunchjamoo]. Deep down I know gambling isn't the answer,  A direct quote from you...You know the answer already Onepunchjamoo and its not gambling as you said yourself

 

Posted on:
Thu, 26/04/2018 - 20:49

caughtup

Joined:
2018-03-01

You are certainly right it isn’t the answer, the world of gambling is like an attractive, all smiles, full of glamour, friendly, persuasive friend, luring you in and then turning out to be an ugly, corrupt, dark, dirty, soul destroying monster! Don’t let it sulk you in to thinking you can win and beat them, you can’t! Instead of playing the frees let yourself be free! Before it’s too late! 

Posted on:
Thu, 26/04/2018 - 21:23

Progress

Joined:
2018-03-15

Guitar hero takes an element of skill and the repetition is classed as practice. I think someone nailing through the fires and flames isn’t remotely comparable to being addicted to risking cash in systems designed to take it from you. That takes zero skill, the odds are predetermined and stacked in the houses favour, play for long enough and you will lose everytime.

I apologise it took me so long to reply but I’ve only just got the opportunity to read your reply.

Posted on:
Fri, 27/04/2018 - 08:55

Onepunchjamoo

Joined:
2018-03-23

Odds don't mean anything, it's not a certainty you will lose. Maybe Einstein should of been more specific, you can do things that are just chance like roll a dice and try to get 6 3 times in a row and eventually it will probably happen. We're going off subject anyway, I think what Einstein said was wrong that's my point, sorry you didn't like my example.

I don't consider it gambling if I don't use my money so I'm basically gamble free ?

Posted on:
Fri, 27/04/2018 - 10:40

Merry go round

Joined:
2017-06-08

It is a certainty you will lose if you are a compulsive gambler because you cannot stop. Your girlfriend is who I worry about, getting a £1000 loan for a gambler after just 4 months of knowing you. 

Posted on:
Fri, 27/04/2018 - 12:01

PositiveAction

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Posted on:
Fri, 27/04/2018 - 15:06

Joydivider

Joined:
2015-03-11

We wont abandon you here one punch but you need to be honest with the people around you if you continue.

You are misinterpreting what I said anout Einstein. I mean there is no system to make it an income scheme or in any way reliable. Im not saying you couldnt win something...Im not saying its impossible to win but the odds are against you. Even on a flick of a coin how much are you going to risk and its not been going right for you. You cant live a stable life on red or black or at 36.1. This isnt a James Bond film going on here

Why dont you try giving your girlfriend most of your money to protect yourself. You havent got an open mind at the moment. An open mind is the serenity to step back and take advice.

You seem quite beligerent that you will win and have got something going on. Are you one of the lads or the jack the lad at the bookies. Ive seen all the banter and people punching the roulette screeens...no doubt they thought they could win a bit as well.

I've seen people headbutting the machines so which part of an easy daily earner didnt he understand?

Ive seen the groans and anger at the roulette screen....Ive seen things getting heated at the casino as people spread bet and start cheating to try and win. The stress and the atmosphere adds up to a mugs game...again its no James Bond film Im seeing

Why dont you go to a local GA meeting just for a one night chat to see how if goes..you can handle it and they will tell you the truth and how they see it. Ring gamcare again because the one to one voice will be helpful and im sure their counsellors will spot the warning signs in what you may say

All the classic symptoms seem to be there...girlfriend bailing you out with loans....you determined to continue gambling...it cant go on like that.

Face it like you are doing here but with an open mind. when you learn about this deadly addiction its often not about the money. I was addicted to the chemical rushes and the chasing...it goes even deeper than that in I was playing to punish myself and I was addicted to self harm because any emotion was better than numb depression in a grey town. Deep down I knew I could not win and that is why the addiction is so harmful just like a substance addiction

Odds mean everything. they have teams of people in offices calculating them all day. The machine have algorithms with are calculated down to the last penny on the percentage on roulette machines. These machines can take 100s of thousands of pounds a year and they are guaranteed up to 2O% of it so they do win no matter what. 

Same with the casino the wins are covered with the losing punters and they will refuse to take any bet which makes them uneasy..Thay call the shots...you dont.

So I will leave you to come up with something new that you are trying. you wont get ill feeling here but you will get some tough talking as you really dont seem ready or willing to stop.

I hope you will think again about taking the right steps

Best wishes

Posted on:
Sat, 28/04/2018 - 22:27

xangel11x

Joined:
2018-02-23

I just want to say, you may be in denial at the moment but if you ever want the help to quit this addiction we will all be here for you. 

Most importantly I wanted to say...

everyone has given amazing advice on this thread and it is not wasted just because you don't want to listen to it. I have read everyones encouraging, helpful, realistic and loving responses to you and it has just made me even stronger than I was to not let gambling back into my life and I am so proud to be a part of this community. 

It doesn't seem like you are listening or wanting to change because you can't admit gambling has a hold of you which it does, no matter how good you are... maybe one day you will see it. The people here have had, or have the addiction, can see it and want to do something about it.

Cheers to a maybe completely gamble free life one day because that's the only way you will ever be in conrol of your own life x 

Posted on:
Sat, 28/04/2018 - 22:39

SLS

Joined:
2017-10-21

 

Today I’ve went out the door with 45£ cash in my wallet and after a pint in a pub, came back with 40£. Being excluded from bookies in my area and registered with gamstop, excluded for live from the biggest poker site, well, today I won 40£ by not gambling. 

 

 

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