I want to end it all

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(@jordanr_3)
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I hate do to do this; writing a post, but I seriously don't know what to do at this point. I've been a gambling addict for the last 8 years and have spent £10k+ in that time frame to this day.

 

I think it stemmed from my first serious relationship. It was not a healthy one, like treading on egg shells as she wanted me to act in a certain way that made her look/feel good. And my job at the time was such a miserable environment I wanted to escape it. So I did online gambling to sort of escape the harshness of reality.

I only did the live table games like roulette, the big wheels and blackjack. I actually got up to a £xk profit at one point and thought this was fantastic. 3 months wages in one session. I can't lose. What could go wrong...

That £xk profit eventually turned to a £6k loss...

I was shocked, angry, depressed, anxious as to what my family would say, which to this day don't know the extent of my problems and I feel I'm in too deep to admit it now. I did take steps on my own terms to put in Gamstop on my computer, banned myself from bookies and other casinos. Got out of that toxic relationship and got a new job which I'm much happier in and had been clean from gambling for roughly 3 years. Which is a gift sent from God as if I was still gambling during Covid, it would be a lot worse at this point.

Then I recently got into a new relationship and it seemed like it was reawakening my problems once again when we went on holidays and there were casinos. Which I dabbled in. Lost but nothing major. She also likes to play bingo which I sometimes go to, which also have FOBT's there. That rekindled my fire. My bookies self exclusions had expired and was allowed back in, and I even avoided Gamstop by going to non registered online casinos from the EU. I got up to £xk profit yesterday and had lost it all in just over 12 hours. An extra £4k down in less than a week of online gambling.

Now I don't blame any of my actions on my new girlfriend, this is my fault and only my fault. I love my new girlfriend, I'm crazy for her and want to marry her and move to a new bigger home and start a family. All I can think of though is all the things I could've bought her with my losses (Mainly an engagement ring). I don't want to lose her. She's the only one in my life who understands what this illness is like.

 

I'm not in debt or owe people any money thankfully but I'm scared what this is doing to me mentally. I can't sleep, I don't eat as well as I used to, I think I have terrible depression and no more self esteem as I play rugby as a hobby, but no longer strive to perfect my game in it, which these sites suggest I do and I took all the necessary precautions to avoid but even that wasn't enough; the thought is always there inside my head. I feel like gambling is no way to live, but neither is the slow grind of everyday work life, it's too slow and boring, and I see no point in trying to live through either situation. It's killing me inside and I feel sick to my stomach. I just can't do this anymore.

I just want that £10k back

I just want that £10k back

I just want tht £10k back

I just want that £10k back

 

Please

 

 

 

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Posted : 14th August 2022 5:15 pm
gadaveuk
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Hi

It took me over twenty years to understand why I gambled but more importantly to understand my emotional triggers.

The gambling addiction and my obsessions was just the symptoms that I was emotionally vulnerable, the emotional triggers indicated that I was vulnerable and reacted in some very unhealthy ways.

I was emotionally vulnerable yet that did not mean I was weak or a bad person.

I am a non religious person and was abale to understand that my conscience was based up on spirtual values.

Recovery is about heeling our pains, my emotional triggers were pains I could not heal, fears I could not face, my unreasonable expectations I could not reduce, loneliness due to my fears of intimacy, and feelings of boredom due the fact I felt I did not feel worthwhile or productive in my life.

How long would it take to heal the hurt inner child.

How long would it take to exchange unhealthy habits into healthy habits.

How long would it take to exchange volatile unhealthy reactions into healthy interactions.

How long would it take to reduce my fears so that trust would start to grow.

Letting go of the money I lost helped me get focused on more important healthier things in my life.

For me writing a post got easier for me.

I was escaping long before I was 8 years of age.

Yes it took me over 20 years just to understand what a healthy recovery was all about.

Handing over finances seemed impossible, I did not understand that I could not trust my self with money.

Money was not happines.

No amount of money was going to heal the hurt inner child in me. 

Writing things down I got to articulate my self in healthier ways and got more accountable with myself.

I think that while I was in action I was not healed or redy for a relationship with other people.

I understand that person pleasing is not healthy.

What are you willing to do to make your feel good healthier and heal your pains.

Money was not important in my life in recovery.

The most important things today are healthy realtionships, and using my time in healthy ways.

The addictions and obsessiobns were just different forms of self abuse and hurting my self.

In time I understood that my addictions and obsessions were a form of escape, escaping in to more fears and an adrenline rush.

People often refer to gambling as being on a high adrenline rush..

You say you were shocked, angry, depressed, and anxious yet you fail to say you were in a very painful place.

I hope you can have and enjoy a new relationship.

For the recovery to wrk you need to be selfish about your recovery.

Invest time and enegy in to your recovery will save your life.

Admitting you are scared is a very healthy thing to do.

The consequences of unhealed pains is fears you may not understand.

You feel like gambling is no way to live no it the path to self destruction of you and people around you.

Love and peace to everyone

Dave L

AKA Dave of Beckenham UK

 

 
Posted : 15th August 2022 2:29 am
Detrimental
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Hi Jordan,

The £10k has gone and will never be coming back. Just make sure you don't let it buddy up with another £2k/£5k/£10K+ in the future.

Sounds like you have a lovely g/f. Roll your sleeves up and fight this battle. Be honest with her and yourself and you will have a bright future.

There's loads of us on here who have lost so much money that it's mind boggling. The important thing is to let it go, draw a line and move forward...gamble free.

Go well mate.

 

 
Posted : 15th August 2022 3:20 pm
c43h
 c43h
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The sooner you give upp chasing losses the sooner you will get out of trouble.

In addiction, repeating your behaviour eventually permanently alters it.

Japanese about alcohol:

First man has a drink

Then drink has a drink

Then drink has the man.

The more you repeat the more you cement your behaviour. Some of us are always going to be addicted because we have permanent altered our brains. That means we have an ongoing risk in falling back in if the triggers are right.

If you know these thing you can start managing you life a bit better. All good things start with a six week break.

That means if you can balance your dopamine levels and stop gambling totally for 6 seeks you will not feel so bad as you do when you have been on gambling for a while.

It is ok to feel down when you are not happy but if it takes over so you feel suicidal you will need to deal with that to. So get the help that you need if you feel really bad.

The more you know about this addiction the more you will be able to deal with it. I wish you well!

Best

C

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Posted : 15th August 2022 3:48 pm
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Hi, thank you for posting on the forum.

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Posted : 15th August 2022 4:23 pm
(@jordanr_3)
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@detrimental No, I refuse to admit that all the hard work I put in to earn that money in the first place is now wasted. That would be me admitting I’m a loser and I don’t want to

 
Posted : 16th August 2022 7:04 am
Chris.UK
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@jordanr_3 You need to change your mindset otherwise you’ll lose more and more until you have nothing left.

Firstly, why do you think you would be admitting to being a loser? You are an addict, not a loser. Step back from yourself and ask the question which one is the loser? The guy who seeks help or the guy who can’t let it go and loses more? Draw a line in the sand and move on with your life from now. 
You won’t be missing out on anything, you say you aren’t in debt, you have a job, everything you want in life you can get from not gambling.

I would suggest finding some help like Gamblers anonymous to help you get your life back on track with others who have been through what you’re currently going through.

Good luck

Chris.

 
Posted : 16th August 2022 9:44 am
Detrimental
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@jordanr_3 You had a choice with what to do with the money your earned and made poor decisions. Just because you're sore about the outcome doesn't mean you deserve it back. You don't. I've been in your shoes and thought the same. You know what, some of the time I won money back, but the overall trend was losing - that's what happens with ALL gambling addicts. Anyone tells you different and they are telling porkies.

If you don't draw a line and let it go, you are signing up for a lot more pain!!

 
Posted : 16th August 2022 11:39 am
(@thisisruiningmylife)
Posts: 125
 

Yes sir thats always how it ends up. been there and done it many times. Im 4 days free and taking each day as it comes. moving in faith. lets try not to dwell on the past. this life is temporary. i hope you have eaten today, i hope you are well. God bless.

 
Posted : 16th August 2022 4:44 pm
(@jordanr_3)
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I’m 3 days clean now, but that thought of the overall £10k loss is still there. Why can’t I shake it off? I feel so horrible as my family don’t know about this and I’m petrified what they’ll do to me about it as they’re very strict, judgemental and domineering, thinking everything must be how they view the world

 
Posted : 17th August 2022 10:21 am
Chris.UK
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@jordanr_3 because it’s only been three days, it’s a lot of money and you haven’t yet got to the point where you view money just as gambling fodder.

It you can start living a life without gambling and start growing your savings, it will become easier to leave the money behind.

You aren’t the only one who has these thoughts but the reason you are being advised to put it behind you is if cannot you will feel the urge to try to win it back. If you do you cannot win because you cannot stop, and it will make things worse.

Chris.

 
Posted : 17th August 2022 12:41 pm
(@sinceninetyeight)
Posts: 65
 

As others have said, it’s 10k that’s not coming back! 

I’ve broke it down for you. £26 a week you lost. How much would you spend on a new shirt or a night out! 

i am not justifying your losses, but you need to rationalise and see it - to be able to move on with your life and start a fresh. Set up a savings account, £50 a week, 4 years, bingo! You can, will, if you truly want to, leave gambling and that £26 a week losses behind you! 

 

 
Posted : 20th August 2022 1:39 pm
(@jordanr_3)
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Topic starter
 

I am now more depressed than ever. I've tried over the phone counselling with Keda for 6 weeks and all it's done is made me think about gambling more as we talked about it. Now I'm £16k down the hole. I just feel numb inside now. I've come to terms I'm not getting this money back. I've also come to terms that I'm a horrible human being and I'm better off gone, away from hurting those around me. I am contemplating suicide now and I didn't think I'd get to this point. If anyone finds this now, I'm so sorry

 
Posted : 1st October 2022 8:23 am
 Ae20
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Posts: 36
 

Hi, please please reach out to someone. I have been where you are. I know it’s hard, but there are ways out of this. Speak to your doctor, or somebody on here. You are worth more than this. Your life is worth more than any amount of money you might have lost. Please be kind to yourself. Xxx

 
Posted : 1st October 2022 10:43 am
Chris.UK
(@chris-uk)
Posts: 887
 

@jordanr_3 I have messaged you before on this post but you’ve not engaged yet. Hopefully now you will. It feels like it’s the end of the world but everything you’ve done and felt I’ve felt too. To have those thoughts when you can’t see a way out is heartbreaking but there is a way out, you just have to want it more than you want gambling.

You’ve tried willpower, it hasn’t worked. You’ve tried counselling, it hasn’t worked. Now try GA. Go and find a group. It’s full of people who understand. It’s full of people who have felt their lives weren’t worth living but through the group they managed to stop gambling. They managed to get some respect and pride back into their lives.

Give it a go. You’ve literally got nothing left to lose by trying. 
I’d love to hear how you get on.

Chris.

 
Posted : 1st October 2022 2:14 pm
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