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Bookies self excluding, what's the point?  

 
Sam301
(@sam301)

At some point in the future I could be moving to another town. Upon visiting I've seen it's a complete nightmare for the amount of bookies and gambling venues there. More extreme than anything I've ever seen before. 

Many clustered together on the high street and lots in typical locations to try and grab money off people when they either aren't thinking too clearly (bookies next to pubs) or need to raise some quick cash to chase losses (bookies next to pawn shops). 

In preparation I've had a look at self excluding and came across "self-exclusion" which is a multi self exclude platform..... But what's the point?

 

The machines at bookies really need some sort of membership scheme where people can only play with a valid membership photo id card. 

 

On that website it says by using their self exclude system I agree to not enter the betting offices at all? That actually made me laugh out loud. It goes on to say if I do enter and manage to gamble then the bet outcome remains. 

 

This system never works does it? Has anyone ever been challenged when self excluded at a bookies? 

 

Staff have to just memorise someone's photo (if done through this multi exclude system, they would never have met the gambler in person). Each betting office must have 100's of people self excluded so impossible to remember them all?

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Posted : 1st September 2019 2:57 am
holycrosser
(@holycrosser)

They wont stop custom

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Posted : 1st September 2019 7:19 am
S.A
 S.A
(@s-687)

Hi... I have been challenged in bookies that am self-excluded from, including one that i'd never actually been in. But its very hit and miss. Some staff are very conscientious and will pounce on you as soon as you come in the door, other staff really don't give a d**n, as long as your not actually attacking the machines or upsetting other customers.

Conscientious staff should review the faces of the excluded on a regular basis. In reality there are not hundreds of self-excluded from each bookies. One of the staff actually showed me on his ipad the faces of the self-excluded. There were maybe 15.

Unfortunately the responsibility lies with the excluded not to go in, but as we all know, if we really want to gamble we will.

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Posted : 1st September 2019 7:36 am
Joydivider
(@joydivider)

Hi

We need to deal with this point firmly.

Self exclusions are an important step in building pride and just seeing how strong the addiction is with  a gambler. They are not the be all and end all and they should not be talked about as the only block someone would do.

I dont believe they will work on their own in many cases. Restricting access to cash, location and telling family members are more important on the scale.

As  we all know the gambling dens dish out *** C*****e ( thats going to get blanked out) and then say when the fun stops stop...so we all know its a nonsense asking them to police the operation. The onus is more with the gambler to try and make that work by making sure the staff have some idea who you are. Create a shame barrier but the shame is really on them for offering nothing but misery

The endorphins in our bodies act like opiates. When we love or seek pleasure the chemicals created in out bodies to motivate us are powerful. Gambling is a drug addiction in my view and that of many medical experts.

Recovery is a test to some degree. If you are likely to try and break self exclusions by sneaking in they are even less important on the scale. The point is that they must be tried and done properly

Many gambling addicts are confused and defeatist in the early stages...they will say whats the point but they are missing the key fact that it is only one of the blocks that should be in place.

When fighting agambling addiction you cant skip telling people and blocking cash access.....awkard to live?...This addiction kills people...any other inconvenience is NOTHING when trying to save the quality of life and indeed save lives

Best wishes from everyone on the forum

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Posted : 1st September 2019 5:00 pm
Joydivider
(@joydivider)

Hi

We need to deal with this point firmly.

Self exclusions are an important step in building pride and just seeing how strong the addiction is with  a gambler. They are not the be all and end all and they should not be talked about as the only block someone would do.

I dont believe they will work on their own in many cases. Restricting access to cash, location and telling family members are more important on the scale.

As  we all know the gambling dens dish out *** C*****e ( thats going to get blanked out) and then say when the fun stops stop...so we all know its a nonsense asking them to police the operation. The onus is more with the gambler to try and make that work by making sure the staff have some idea who you are. Create a shame barrier but the shame is really on them for offering nothing but misery

The endorphins in our bodies act like opiates. When we love or seek pleasure the chemicals created in out bodies to motivate us are powerful. Gambling is a drug addiction in my view and that of many medical experts.

Recovery is a test to some degree. If you are likely to try and break self exclusions by sneaking in they are even less important on the scale. The point is that they must be tried and done properly

Many gambling addicts are confused and defeatist in the early stages...they will say whats the point but they are missing the key fact that it is only one of the blocks that should be in place.

When fighting agambling addiction you cant skip telling people and blocking cash access.....awkard to live?...This addiction kills people...any other inconvenience is NOTHING when trying to save the quality of life and indeed save lives

Best wishes from everyone on the forum

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Posted : 1st September 2019 5:01 pm
Joydivider
(@joydivider)

duplicate post above as the site went really slow and into lockup mode and I cant even edit one out   Thanks

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Posted : 1st September 2019 5:11 pm
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