Thank you for this link, Ineffable. Gamstop is an exciting new initiative that will genuinely help our recovery as we seek to remain gambling free.
Something clicked and I realised my life is out of control, all down to gambling. Slots/games online. Just one last tenner, oh just twenty more and so on. I was stuck in a rut, still could be. It's so hard. I last gambled 21/03/19. I have been offered a lifeline several times, was once gf for over a year. Thought I could control it, stupidly started again, with limits on account, these limits soon fiddled with, and an obscene amount of money being lost again. I started lying to my husband again. I have come clean to him again, he knows it all, he's standing by me again. But this has to be it, I can't keep taking the P**s out of him, its reallly not fair.
For the last 10 days I haven't gambled I feel fantastic! I am no longer snappy, hiding in the bedroom on my iPad. I have spent lovely time with my husband, it really is much better.
However I do know I have a long way to go, I joined this site on th 21/03 hoping it would help. Reading others inspiring journeys has helped. This has to be it for me, there can be no going back. I am so lucky to be given another chance and I am about to become debt free, which as amazing as it is it worries the hell out of me. Because for the first time in many years I will have money. Which I am determined will not be spent on gambling, I will be getting my life back.
For Me x
Really enjoyed ur post mixer.ive just joined and thats the first thing i read.comforting to know i aint the only one who feels like i do because of this lonely disease.gonna put some of those tips into practice.cheers again
Thanks Solksjaer20; I'm glad you found it useful.
Our addiction can be tamed, it can be controlled, one valuable day at a time.
We can lead a different, fulfilled, life.
I have overcome gambling and for months now I have worked hard, paid debts and actually saved money! I want to reach out because I need closure and I cannot stand the idea of it happening to anyone else as bad as it did for me. I’m 21 now and it all started once I turned 18. I have insights that people need to get over this and help them through. Reply if you want help. I’ve been to hell and back and now I need to help.
Hi Joeyjamieo ,
Well done on overcoming gambling for the time you have , it's great to hear this.
And thank you for offering support to other users on the forum .
Contact us anytime on 0808 8020 133 or via our website on our Netline service should you or anyone else here need any support moving forward , keep up the good work .
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I have finally admitted I have a gambling addiction and trying to find the route of why I started gambling in the first place.
I have been gambling for 7 years and racked up £26000 worth of debt through it.
I have finally taken the steps I need to get myself out of this cycle and deal with the real problems at hand. The original post is so helpful and reading the comments gives me hope that I didn't have before that I can quit and get me back into a stable financial situation once more and more importantly a stable mental well-being.
I have been gambling on and off since 2012. 8 years, in which I served a 25 month sentence for attempted robbery on a bookmakers. While in lockdown I have slipped backwards. Despite turning my life around and gaining a first-class Honours degree, gambling has reared it's ugly head again! I have suffered today and yesterday but I am putting in steps again. The post and comments are a good read, thanks.
Fantastic post. Thank you so much
Hi
just new here
first day no gambling
Lost everything due to gambling can’t pay debt
Can’t sleep with worry
Want to DO something about your out-of-control gambling? Read on.....
*** INTRODUCTION & 2 QUICK HINTS ***
You may be reading this post because you've lost too much money (possibly after yet another heartbreaking gambling binge) and/or are in other related trouble, the situation becoming unsustainable. Therefore you might be desperate for help. If so, please keep calm, take stock and considering talking to someone, maybe a trusted friend or loved one. You may also consider Gamcare (0808 8020 133) or the Samaritans (116 123) depending on how you're feeling.
Bearing in mind, as we know to our cost, that using our willpower to stop is usually simply not enough, here are two quick hints that suggest practical measures you can consider putting into place right away.
Quick Hint No. 1 ---> Do you need to ban yourself from gambling? Here are five positive things you can do straightaway. Why not *** the nettle right now and exclude yourself from:
- Online casinos ---> www.gamstop.co.uk n.b. doesn't cover all casinos yet, but it will by Sept 2018 - and IT ONLY TAKES A MINUTE! The teething problems with the service are now fixed. Select the *5 year* abstention option. If online casinos are your problem, and there's one thing you do today - do this. NOW!
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- Land-based casinos ---> <a href=" removed link " target="_blank" rel="noopener">playingsafe.org.uk - covers ALL casinos in the UK - do it now
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- Bingo Clubs ---> bingo-association.co.uk - covers all bingo halls - just ban yourself and save yourself more misery
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- Bookies ---> https://self-exclusion.co.uk /" target="_blank" rel="noopener">self-exclusion.co.uk -- ban yourself from as many bookies in your area, and beyond, as you can
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- Amusement Arcades ---> bacta.org.uk. - easy to do, just register!
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Quick Hint No.2 ---> Need a near-failsafe way to stop? In addition to excluding yourself from as many gambling operators as possible (see the paragraph above), why not hand over full financial control to a trusted friend or loved one - no "ifs or buts". Without the means, you can't gamble. They'll respect you for it, because it proves your intent. How long for? For life, probably. But what a better life you'll lead!
*** AND NOW ... THE BIG WELCOME! ***
Hi there. Have you had ENOUGH of this devastating problem gambling habit? Yes? Good. So let’s do something about it, eh 😉
My name is 'Mixer' and I'm a regular here on the Gamcare forums.
If you are new here, or even a regular visitor, you might find the following interesting, written through the eyes of a (recovering) compulsive gambler who, like you, is determined to stop gambling. Here I look into why we gamble and what we can do about it - for ourselves primarily, but I also consider the impact on our loved ones - let's never forget about them.
Now, I say it as it is. But it's probably what you want (need) to hear and possibly reflects what you're thinking anyway.
There's an old saying: "We are where we are". In other words, regardless how we got here, we start again from here, we start again from now.
We need to put our regret and self-pity aside for a moment and take some time to think things through and understand why we can't continue like this. This is why you're here, reading this.
Firstly, though, here's a video to watch. It's about someone who was hooked into this addiction, like me, like you. I thoroughly recommend you listen to his story ---> <a href="https:// removed link %C2%A0"> removed link
Now, there's a fair bit to read. Why not make yourself a 'cuppa' before you start. If you only want to read some bits or now, then simply click on the blue link to jump to the section you're interested in, and click your browser 'back button' to return here.
*** Contents ***
Before we try to resolve your problem, we need to understand what brought you to this point in the first place. We need to question:
- why have we been doing it?
- why is it so difficult to stop?
- why is it such a problem?
- and what can we do about it?
We then take a deeper look, firstly looking into practical steps you can take, here and now. We also take a look at other impacts of your gambling. All this will help you get into a good 'mindset' for the task ahead as you consider:
- the 4 key things we can do
- what happens if we relapse
- life without gambling – is it too ‘boring’?
- the impact to our loved ones
- willpower and why that's not enough
- dealing with debt
- signing up to Gamcare and suggestions about what to do next.
Let's start by looking at why you might have started.
- You were curious – those adverts with big bonus opening offers seemed too good to be true (and you may even have won at first!). Maybe you were playing apps for 'points' and decided playing for cash would be more &# 39;exciting'.
- Because others were gambling – Mates in the pub, or friends at bingo etc. were gambling – you thought you'd join them
- Escapism – Seemed like a distraction from any ‘woes’
- Chance to make a fortune – This could’ve been an easy way to make money. And maybe you did - at first - before that 'killer' loss.
- Or some other reason. Something may have happened in your life that ‘triggered’ your first, and subsequent, gambles. It might be symptomatic of an illness.
--- Why are you finding it so hard to stop? ---
- It’s everywhere – as long as you've got money and time, and there’s opportunity, you're just too tempted. You might say, for example, that gambling adverts are on the telly every five minutes - it's all so 'in your face'!
- Debt – You may need to get out of worsening debt; just one ‘big win’ will clear it. Just One. Big. Win.
- Escapism – It continues to distract you from your troubles, or boredom or rut (yet gambling is an even worse rut)
- It’s enjoyable – but you're losing more than you're winning, and, when you actually think about it, it’s actually more tortuous than enjoyable. The losses are far more frequent and catastrophic then the lesser and smaller wins.
- It’s like a ‘friend’ to me – but you can see it’s not a friend at all. It’s just a way of you handing over my money to some soulless gambling operator; this isn't friendship.
- 'Feel good' chemicals are triggered - that might be true, but you really can start to wean yourself off this, shaking ourselves out of this compulsion you have. Urges, always strong to start with, can subside.
- I've got an addictive personality - but, oddly enough, you wasn't addicted to anything before you started gambling. (Ok, maybe you smoked, but same principle.) But is this just an easy 'excuse' to continue...? Possibly.
--- Why is gambling such a problem? ---
- It’s because we can’t stop. If we win, we keep going until we lose, and then we keep losing. In other, words, we never win. And to make matters worse, the odds are always against us. That's it, really; it's simply too expensive in money, time, and what it does to us. And, sadly, the longer we carry on the more we chase the inevitable losses that always show their head at some point. Financial discipline goes out of the window, many of us sadly waking up having unintentionally lost a small fortune the day before. And, in our desperation, we might do things we shouldn't do, and get into even more trouble.
We have to stop gambling. Now. Right Away. And we can! Here are four things to help 'break the gambling cycle', steps that will vastly improve our chances of being gambling-free. We need to embrace the four "As" - Acceptance, Awareness, Action and Attitude:
- ACCEPTANCE & AWARENESS - We must admit we are compulsive gamblers; likely for life, such is the baffling nature of our condition. Therefore, a lifetime solution and ongoing commitment is likely necessary. We need to be determined and ready for this new phase – the 'second half' – of our lives. I repeat; this is for life. I do not personally believe there is a cure, but do believe we can successfully manage our condition, so we don't gamble, forever. Some people who gamble can handle it; they don't become addicts. Sadly, some of us get hooked and become problem gamblers. Wouldn't it be great if we could stop whenever we wanted? But ... we can't. It's the way we're 'wired' - we actually get more excitement from the 'near miss' than the win itself - and, sadly, we have to accept this reality.
- ACTION - We need to seek support from loved ones and professionals. This requires honesty from us, an open admission of our problems. Sometimes we need to be careful about who we open up to, and when, and how. But don't hide the facts, when you do; be straight, and don't twist the truth or hide facts. Otherwise, you're just conning yourself, as well as deceiving others. Professional support includes:
- reading books from experts; here are a few well worth a try:
- https://www.amazon.co.uk/Easy-Way-Stop-Gambling-Control-ebook/dp/B00EZSK6PM/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1515838987&sr=8-1&keywords=allen+carr+gamblin g">Stopping Gambling by Allen Carr
- https://www.amazon.co.uk/Recovery-Freedom-Addictions-Russell-Brand/dp/1427289573/ref=tmm_abk_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=1516136488&sr=8- 1">Recovery: Freedom from Our Addictions by Russell Brand
- https://www.amazon.co.uk/No-Big-Deal-Recovery-Addictions/dp/095536770 0">No Big Deal by John Coates
- phoning Gamcare on 0808 8020 133
- accessing Gamcare webchat
- Counselling; very worthwhile: it might even draw out reasons that caused us to gamble in the first place. It's highly recommended and Gamcare offers it FREE - just give them a call to find out more.
- joining https://www.gamblersanonymous.org.uk /">Gamblers Anonymous - it's a long time established, well organised and highly recommended. You'll meet others just like you in a vibrant, supportive atmosphere - you're never alone!
- Don't forget your doctor. Hey, you might need help in this way; you might be depressed, or ill, and need some help. Never be afraid to talk things through, Ok?
- ACTION - We need to put restrictions in place to make sure that we cannot gamble even if we wanted to. This is important, because, as compulsive gamblers, we can be very sneaky indeed. This includes, for example, handing over financial control to a trusted friend or loved ones, putting self-exclusions in place so you can't gamble online or in gambling establishments like bookies, arcades and casinos. It's good to keep busy, keeping fi t, eating well and enjoying life, and the company of others. And there's an excellent friendly community right here in the Gamcare forums.
- ATTITUDE - To stop gambling, one day at a time. Let's not expect miracles; let's keep it real. If we stop one day at a time, that's realistic and manageable. Every morning, say to yourself, and mean, and stick to: "Just for today, I will not gamble". Now, life will throw stuff at you, as life does, but whatever it is can be handled much, much better without gambling in the way. Stick to this one simple rule and you can manage this condition, along with good support and sound strategies to help you restrict the possibilities of you gambling, for ever. But always one day at a time.
We really mustn't gamble ever again, because starting up again can easily get us into as much trouble as before. Relapsing can be extremely damaging. In fact, getting 'addicted' to the self-loathing, self-pity of relapsing, often linked to underlying lifestyle issues, is a vicious cycle we must snap out of. However, if you do relapse, the most important thing to do is get 'back in the saddle' as soon as possible, going gambling-free, always one day at a time. Please also bear in mind the following:
- We are human. We may well relapse on this lifetime journey of going gambling-free. (I have, to my deepest regret, sadness and personal detriment relapsed several times.) Only ‘beat yourself up’ if you are going to give up’ trying to go gambling-free, or are not prepared to learn from, and do something about, the experience. ("Being human" is not an excuse to gamble again by the way - it's what we learn from it and our attitude to how we respond that counts.)
- True character is shown from those who, when they fall down, get up again, stronger. If you relapse, be honest about it, think about why it happened and think what you can learn for ‘next time’; what can make a future relapse less likely? What did you 'miss' this time? How can you block it next time? Remember - compulsive gamblers like us can be very sneaky and devious; the 'non-gambling' side of your brain must outwit the 'gambling' side. Share your reasoning with loved ones and trusted friends; be open and honest; don't hide.
- Keep trying. Don't give up. Remember, we won't relapse if we stick to one important rule: every morning, say to yourself, and stick to, this: "Just for today, I won't place a bet". Sounds simple; but that'll do the job.
--- Is Life boring without gambling? ---
Gambling is a very lonely habit actually, even in a social setting. Look how solitary most people are in a bookies, bingo, pub or casino, for example. And losing the money is just part of it. Some people think life outside gambling is boring, but that's partly because we close the curtains to other things when we gamble, we fail to see fantastic other options life has to offer.
Is life really about that Saturday afternoon football bet fix? Is it a must that the fruit machine is pumped with all your money every time you have a pint? Does a quiet spell at home really mean that we have to spend all our cash on a some soulless online cartoon gambling game (bingo and slots)?
The answer to all three questions is "no" by the way - we just can't see it right now, that's how 'fogged' our minds have become. To illustrate, let's look at each of the above sample scenarios in turn.
- Football betting - Step back for a moment. Consider this. When you put a bet on, consider whether are you actually enjoying the game anymore. What it's really about. Which should be the teams, the tactics, the atmosphere, the skill, the excitement and more. Yet, when you're gambling, it becomes 'cold'; about the stark result, the number of goals, dependences on other games, the number of corners etc. The enjoyment for the 'beautiful game' has gone; instead, it's about numbers and a 'sterile' scoreline. Why not enjoy the game again - it doesn't need a bet, actually. And what's the point in betting on the game(s) anyway? If you do win, you eventually lose and then lose some more. What's the point? Why not knock gambling on the head and fall in love with the game again, like you used to?
- Fruit machines - These soulless boxes are everywhere, in pubs, bingo and bookies (FOBTs), all drawing you in with their flashing lights. The thing is, you can win on them, but only if you know what you're doing and only a select few professional punters do; even in bookies.They just need mug punters to fill them up for them. If you're not a professional, then, the fact is, the mug punter is you. Enjoy your pint or glass of wine by all means - maybe in the company of others - and let someone else be that mug punter - not you. Remember - all slots, including FOBTs, are not truly random. They can be, and are, manipulated. Leave them alone.
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- Online slots - they're everwhere, but think for a moment what you are doing. You're sitting down playing 'cartoon games' and wasting your hard-earned money without leaving your sofa; isn't that a crying shame? Remember, you never win because you always give it back. Instead, think about the power of the internet and the wealth of things you could be doing instead. Use social media, watch videos (not gambling ones, they're all a con and trying to hook you in), films, box sets .. you can discover so much and it's all free or nearly free. And if you turn the computer off, more possibilities! Think back. What did you do before you gambled, when you had cash spare? By the way, you can block all your PCs, mobiles, tablets and other devices with software found here.
And consider this. Gambling sessions can be very expensive and remarkably short in duration. Let's say you've just spent your monthly salary in a day. What would you rather be for the rest of the month - bored and skint, or bored with cash in your pocket, and lots of lovely options?
Remember, a whole long, drawn-out month being skint really isn't much fun at all. Just think about what you, and your loved ones, could be doing. Keeping fit, eating better, going out, there's so much more! So, as gambling 'sessions' tend to be quite short, is there really that great a void to fill...?
Let's not forget about our loved ones who get caught up with all this. Our gambling affects them, too, and they don't like it much (to put it mildly). They want to see us back to our 'normal selves', back to the vibrant people we really are. Not the frankly unpleasant and neurotic characters we have become, all wrapped up with gambling, and the lies/self-loathing/selfish attitudes that come with it.
We're wasting money that could have benefitted your loved ones, too. We're very good at punishing ourselves. Why punish them too?
We often don't fully consider how devestating gambling can be for our partners, family and friends, because we become so 'wrapped up' with ourselves we become desensitised and numb to it all. Enough!
Take a look at some of the diaries here to see the view from their perspective; it's sobering at best, absolutely heartbreaking at worst. Let's not hide from the impacts of what we've been doing.
--- Willpower and Gambing Operators ---
It seems odd, but quite often willpower isn't enough on its own, because it can be misused to sneakily start up again! That's why we also need to seek support and put in place solid blocks to help us. If nothing changes, nothing changes.
How about gambling operators? We can blame them all we want; the truth is they're going nowhere. The truth is we have to take personal responsibility.
--- Handling the losses and dealing with debt ---
Sometimes, we find it very hard to get over the fact we've lost so much money. That's an understandable reaction; you may have lost substantial sums and possibly be in severe debt.
The only way to move on is firstly to accept that chasing your losses, trying to recoup the losses, is the worst thing to do. You'll just get into worse trouble because, remember, we can't stop. If we do happen to win it all back, and this is unlikely, we will still gamble and lose it all over again, and then more.
That's just the way it is and we have to accept this brutal truth. If we can't accept the money has gone forever, it will eat away at us and we can't move on. It's time to stop beating ourselves up and time to start to repair the damage.
If you have debts but are having problems managing them, then take a look at this page from https://www.moneysavingexpert.com/loans/debt-help-pla n">MoneySavingExpert - a bit of planning prioritising and 'juggling' your obligations could save you significant interest charges. If you are in serious debt, then seriously consider getting in touch with https://www.stepchange.org /">Stepchange, a debt specialist charity.
Stepchange roll up all of your debts into manageable repayments and stop further interest. They will set everything up. Yes, it will affect your credit rating but in time you can improve this by paying off the debts.
You'll have peace of mind knowing creditors will stop 'banging on the door'; and your debts will be cleared in a few short years. It'll be worth it but require discipline and a true resolve to stop gambling. But you know this.
Let's really 'give our all' to stop this. Hey - it's not easy, but we can do it. We have a choice; to live life as it should be lived, or untold misery. Let's choose life!
Where next? Here's a good place to start; a page of key information from Gamcare.
And do seriously consider joining the Gamcare Forums! You'll meet lots of friendly people who have been impacted by this devastating condition. Recovering addicts, those trying to stop, loved ones who have been affected, success stories, suggestions and much, much more. It's a lively community and it may really, really help you. So:
- Why not sign up, it's all completly anonymous.
- Then say 'hello!'; just create a new topic. You'll be given a warm welcome and tons of good advice and support from fellow recovering gamblers like you.
- Consider setting up a diary; many of us find these very useful; they're very popular.
- Fancy a challenge? Want to spend 2018 gambling-free? Then this is worth a look; the '2018 Challenge' thread (run by Neil C.)
Thank you for reading this. You got this far - it shows you're serious, it's shows intent.
Why not give Gamcare a call? 0808 8020 133 is the number and there will be a friendly voice on the other end. You're also welcome to post a comment or ask a question anytime on this thread.
May I wish you all the very best. Let's do something about this - You can do it!
With my very best wishes,
Mixer
(one of many recovering gamblers who have joined Gamcare happy to help our fellow Gamcare buddies as they strive to go gambling free, too!)
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