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#1 Posted on:
Mon, 21/08/2017 - 22:20

Mixer

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UPDATE (18/10/17) - Do consider the NEW Christmas Challenge, and the long-standing 2017 Challenge too :)

*** THIS IS THE GURU CHALLENGE ***

We know gambling's no good for us, or our friends and loved ones either. We know it's not easy to stop ... but we have to start from somewhere.

As part of a strategy to become and stay gambling free, this may help. Why not join a group of us trying to become gambling free, one day at a time. 

You'll start as a new member, if you have between 0-29 consecutive days Gambling Free, then progress to reach:

  • 30 Days Gambling Free - and reach  "STRIVER" level 
  • Then, 100 Days Gambing Free - and reach "ELDER" level
  • Then, 300 Days Gambling Free - and reach "GURU" level and beyond - our target! 

 

Would you like to join us? Simply drop us a post and say 'hello' !

There's a 'rollcall' every Sunday and you'll always get a personal mention. There's no need to check in; but if you don't visit the forums in the last three weeks you'll be 'rested' from the Challenge. It's great to hear from you, though, so do check in, comment and post as much as you'd like to!

Don't forget, there's lots of support to help you become gambling-free here on the Gamcare website, so it's well worth a look. You might feel a Challenge like this is useful.

However you decide to progress your non-gambling journey, we sincerely wish you all the best.

*** Why not consider this? ***

For under £4 (Kindle) and under £6 (Paperback) this book might really help you. If you really want to stop, this could really help get you on the right track; as they say - "Don't knock it 'till you've tried it!". Worth a few quid, surely?

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00EZSK6PM/ref=dp-kindle-redirect?_encoding=...(n.b. Gamcare - no; we're not on commission!)

Mixer & Athena - your hosts for the challenge

Posted on:
Mon, 21/08/2017 - 22:53

Xenedra

Joined:
2017-08-16

NEWBIE here...but striving for GURU!!

Posted on:
Mon, 21/08/2017 - 22:55

Mixer

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2016-12-03

Welcome aboard Xenedra ... you're a GURU in the making :)

Posted on:
Mon, 21/08/2017 - 22:58

Moorey631986

Joined:
2016-09-08

Count me in, Mixer. 

6 days gamble free for me, so a fellow Newbie :)

It's a great idea!!!

Posted on:
Mon, 21/08/2017 - 23:00

Mixer

Joined:
2016-12-03

Thanks Moorey. Great to have you aboard! :)

Posted on:
Tue, 22/08/2017 - 07:01

Athena1991

Joined:
2016-09-17

Hi Mixer I am definitely in! 

I am on day 7 today being gamble free and am a newbie and looking forward to being a striver!

I don't mind helping with the running of the forum if you need any help :-)

Let's make today another gf day.

Athena

Posted on:
Tue, 22/08/2017 - 07:10

Sars27

Joined:
2017-06-02

I'm in my main man mixer Day 81 today :)! Let's gooooo!

Sars

 

Posted on:
Tue, 22/08/2017 - 07:26

Mixer

Joined:
2016-12-03

Hi Athena - welcome aboard, and delighted you're happy to share the running of our challenge; I'll write to you on your diary later :) and you'll notice I've changed the welcome post already ;)

Sars - our first Striver on-board and maybe our first Elder very soon! A pleasure to have you as part of our new determined, lively group. Welcome, Sars!

Posted on:
Tue, 22/08/2017 - 08:16

chartom3

Joined:
2015-03-11

Count me in on day 4 gf so a Newbie,......... been a Striver,Elder and a Guru in the past so with the help of this challenge hope to reach those heights once again.

Posted on:
Tue, 22/08/2017 - 08:18

Mixer

Joined:
2016-12-03

Welcome chartom - you're IN, and we're going to help you back to GURU again. It's gonna be hard work, but you've been there before, and you'll get there again :)

Posted on:
Tue, 22/08/2017 - 09:07

rubybaby123

Joined:
2017-07-31

Count me in too! 25 days gf :)

Posted on:
Tue, 22/08/2017 - 09:13

Mixer

Joined:
2016-12-03

Hey Rubybaby - welcome!!  So close to being a STRIVER :) !

Posted on:
Tue, 22/08/2017 - 09:37

Bornagain

Joined:
2013-12-14

Day 7 for me today, count me in

Posted on:
Tue, 22/08/2017 - 11:07

Mixer

Joined:
2016-12-03

Great to have you aboard BA :)

Posted on:
Tue, 22/08/2017 - 13:29

laurainsky

Joined:
2017-08-04

Can i join?

12 days GF so a mere newbie atm ;)

Posted on:
Tue, 22/08/2017 - 13:36

Athena1991

Joined:
2016-09-17

 

Of course you can Laura! Welcome to the group! Collectively we will work together to get to the next stage and then the next! before long we can all be gurus

Athena 

Posted on:
Tue, 22/08/2017 - 14:26

ItMattersMoreWh...

Joined:
2017-06-02

I love a challenge so can I throw my hat into the ring.

ItMattersMore

Posted on:
Tue, 22/08/2017 - 14:29

Athena1991

Joined:
2016-09-17

Great to have you itmatters more! Another striver in the group which is great! Not long and you'll have elder status  :-)

Athena 

Posted on:
Tue, 22/08/2017 - 18:00

degenerate

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2013-05-10

 

I will join. When does this start? I guess we begin at Day 1.

Posted on:
Tue, 22/08/2017 - 18:54

conradnose

Joined:
2017-06-21

I would like to join also please.

 

Posted on:
Tue, 22/08/2017 - 18:58

Mixer

Joined:
2016-12-03

*** THE FIRST EVER GURU CHALLENGE ROLLCALL! ***

And here we go ... we're on our way with the first ever rollcall! (Want to join us? Drop us a post!) 

Athena and I welcome 11 intrepid souls (including ourselves), all ready to become the GURUs of the future. We start with 8 NEWBIEs, 2 STRIVERs and 1 ELDER - Degenerate, trailblazing the way for the rest of us. Rubybaby is not far off being a STRIVER - a status that really means business. Talking of whom, we have 2 STRIVERS, Sars27 and ItMattersMoreWhenTheresNoMoneyOnIt (did I spell that right :) ) both on 81 days a-piece.

LET THE CHALLENGE BEGIN !!!!! 

Athena1991 - 7 days - NEWBIE!

Bornagain - 7 Days - NEWBIE!

chartom3 - 4 Days - NEWBIE!

degenerate - 147 Days - ELDER!

ItMattersMoreWhenTheresNoMoneyOnIt - 81 Days - STRIVER!

laurainsky - 12 Days - NEWBIE!

Mixer - 11 Days - NEWBIE!

Moorey631986 - 7 Days - NEWBIE!

rubybaby123 - 25 Days - NEWBIE!

Sars27 - 81 days - STRIVER!

Xenedra - 6 days - NEWBIE!

Let's keep posting, keep supporting each other, and keep chalking off those GF days :) - here we go!

 

 

 

 

Posted on:
Tue, 22/08/2017 - 18:59

amt722

Joined:
2013-11-10

Hi, currently on day 5 looking for a challenge to remain gamble free. Would like to be included please. 

Posted on:
Tue, 22/08/2017 - 19:11

Mixer

Joined:
2016-12-03

Hi amt722 -  you're in! You'll be part of the next rollcall. Welcome aboard :)

Posted on:
Tue, 22/08/2017 - 19:37

robf

Joined:
2010-04-29

Seeing as I am over 500 days I would be classed as a guru accordingly to your scale. I am far from such a title.

I can tell you now that I do not have the best life and it's nothing to do with how many days I have been gamble free or not .

I have no advice or indeed any insight to how you can reach my prestigious level. I'm sure everything will be better than it was because you haven't gambled for 300 days and can now proclaim yourself a guru.

Good luck everyone!!

Posted on:
Tue, 22/08/2017 - 20:19

Mixer

Joined:
2016-12-03

Hi robf,

As the saying goes: "Upon us all, A little rain must fall."

I have to say, to be honest, your post did feel like a little Robf-shaped raincloud just passed overhead, stopped at this thread, and dumped a month's worth of rain!

Fortunately, I've been blessed with a rather large brolly :)

I'm sorry that you feel that the Guru description (a rhetorical device) didn't fit you. Hey - it's not compulsory :)  I wrote those descriptions in context of comparing gambling to non-gambling. The contrast couldn't be greater in my opinion: gambling, especially the way we gamble, leads to comparative disaster and refraining, going GF, leads to comparative happiness.

Ah, but I think you're talking about life; that's a different matter. Life will throw at us what life does. Nothing we can do about that, unless it's in our control and we decide to make things better - or worse.

So, don't worry that the terminology doesn't suit you, Robf. I wish you well, and thank you for your post.

And hope you get a little sunshine coming your way!

Posted on:
Tue, 22/08/2017 - 20:47

Moorey631986

Joined:
2016-09-08

Let's make it a challenge that we ALL make it to Guru status. Let's carry each other over the finishing line. 

But for now I'm looking forward to achieving Striver status. 

Feeling so much more positive than this time last week.

Posted on:
Tue, 22/08/2017 - 20:48

Mixer

Joined:
2016-12-03

That's exactly the spirit that'll get you to the next level Moorey. With you all the way mate.

Posted on:
Tue, 22/08/2017 - 20:49

antics

Joined:
2017-07-30

Sign me up for the fellowship :)

Posted on:
Tue, 22/08/2017 - 20:51

Sars27

Joined:
2017-06-02

@mixer woooooooorrrrrrrddddd ;) I got schooled with your last entry ! Just beautiful !!! Again wooorrrdddd ! See you at the chatroom later !

Sars 

Posted on:
Tue, 22/08/2017 - 20:57

Mixer

Joined:
2016-12-03

Thank you Sars my man ... I had great fun writing the entry I think you're talking about ;)

Antics - welcome aboard, you're in and great to have you with us !!!!

Posted on:
Tue, 22/08/2017 - 21:57

Athena1991

Joined:
2016-09-17

Checking in for roll call for another gf day!

Posted on:
Tue, 22/08/2017 - 22:08

Mixer

Joined:
2016-12-03

 

*** YOU'VE GOTTA LAUGH, HAVEN'T YOU :) ***

Strange, isn't it, that ....

... I read that 4,153,237 people got married last year. I'm not trying to cause any trouble but shouldn't that be an even number?

... I find it ironic that the colors red, white, and blue stand for freedom until they are flashing behind you...

... When wearing a bikini, women reveal 90% of their body... men are so polite they only look at the covered parts!

... Relationships are a lot like algebra. Have you ever looked at your X and wondered Y?

... My therapist says I have a preoccupation with vengeance. We'll see about that...

... I think my neighbour is stalking me as she's been googling my name on her computer! I saw it through my telescope last night ...

... If you think nobody cares whether you're alive, just try missing a couple of payments ...!

Posted on:
Wed, 23/08/2017 - 07:32

laurainsky

Joined:
2017-08-04

Going into day 13 feeling strong, this smash this and become gurus!! 

Posted on:
Wed, 23/08/2017 - 07:43

Raj

Joined:
2017-07-05

Count me in Guys..4 days gambling free..

Posted on:
Wed, 23/08/2017 - 09:27

Mixer

Joined:
2016-12-03

Welcome aboard, Raj - we want you to be a STRIVER!

Posted on:
Wed, 23/08/2017 - 09:45

Mixer

Joined:
2016-12-03

Hmmm ... it's just occurred to me. I'm 48, so does that make me...

A NEWBIE STRIVING to be an ELDERly GURU? :)

Posted on:
Wed, 23/08/2017 - 11:30

Abstainer

Joined:
2017-05-10

Permission to come aboard skipper ?  Abstainer the Elder reporting for duty . 104 Days GF and on a mission .

Posted on:
Wed, 23/08/2017 - 11:32

Moorey631986

Joined:
2016-09-08

Loved your jokes this morning Mixer! Some crackers there! :)

Checking in Day 8 gamble free. 

I shall remain so for the rest of the day. 

Have a happy gamble-free day peeps.

Posted on:
Wed, 23/08/2017 - 13:46

Athena1991

Joined:
2016-09-17

Great to see you on board abstainer - great to have an elder as part of the group!  the take up has been great! 

Mixer loving the jokes - they've put a smile on my face! 

Athena 

Posted on:
Wed, 23/08/2017 - 15:36

Mixer

Joined:
2016-12-03

*** IT'S GOOD TO READ ***

Being Gambling-Free means more time spent on more interesting pursuits. I've been clearing out some books, if anyone would like them. I'm only up to the As and Bs, but I'll have another clearout next week

‘Advantageous’ by Benny Fishall
‘American Breakfast’ by Chris P. Bacon and ‘Pancakes’ by Mabel Sirrup
‘Antibiotics’ by Penny Sillin
‘Are You Dancing?’ by R. U. Asking
‘Back Problems’ by Eileen Bent
‘Bacteria’ by Mike Robes
‘Beguiled’ by N. Tyesing
‘Blushing’ by Rosie Cheeks
‘Breakfast’ by Hammond Deggs
‘Breath of Fresh Air’ by Hal E. Tosis
‘Can you bricklay for me?’ by Bill Jerome Wall
‘Broken Window’ by Eva Brick
‘Bullfighting’ by Matt Adore

Good reads, every one of them :)

Seriously, though, there isn't nothing like a good book to dip into now and then. Something to escape to..!

Let's all have a GF Wednesday !!!!

Posted on:
Wed, 23/08/2017 - 16:17

Raj

Joined:
2017-07-05

Sure will..need to get into reading again..especially Steven King novels..

Posted on:
Wed, 23/08/2017 - 17:01

Mixer

Joined:
2016-12-03

Indeed Raj. Perhaps not 'Misery' though ... being GF that's what we're trying to get away from ... :)

It's actually a very good book..!

Posted on:
Wed, 23/08/2017 - 18:56

robf

Joined:
2010-04-29

"The contrast couldn't be greater in my opinion: gambling, especially the way we gamble, leads to comparative disaster and refraining, going GF, leads to comparative happiness." It's this myth I was trying to challenge with my post and tried to communicate being gamble free does not equate to happiness.

I can only talk from my experience but life is the exact reason for my gambling and the push to separate them as if they had no cause and effect is dangerous.

For me it comes down to this, is my life awful because I gamble or do I gamble because my life is awful?

For me it's the latter and everything I have seen from other people from the virtual to the real it's rarely the former.

Posted on:
Wed, 23/08/2017 - 19:35

Raj

Joined:
2017-07-05

Hey Robf, we don't need gambling as we don't enjoy it anymore. We will pull through this..please stay positive. 

Posted on:
Wed, 23/08/2017 - 20:49

Mixer

Joined:
2016-12-03

Hi Robf,

It's widely understood that often gambling is a symptom of an underlying issue, and should that be the case, it often helps to get to the root of the underlying cause.

Any strategy to stop gambling needs to look into as many aspects as possible, and this is often one of them.

You don't seem to be in a good place Rob, and I'm genuinely saddened for you. 

Do consider contacting Gamcare, or chatting to someone, maybe your GP, to help you towards a better outlook. We all know whether being GF for a short or long period, life itself sometimes isn't easy.

All the best, Robf.

Posted on:
Wed, 23/08/2017 - 22:33

Mixer

Joined:
2016-12-03

*** YOU'VE GOTTA LAUGH! ***

An man walks into a pub.

The landlord looks at him and notices he has a steering wheel stuck down the front of his trousers!

"What's with the steering wheel down your pants?" he asks. 

"Oh that!" the man replies. "Y'know, it's been driving me nuts ....."

Posted on:
Wed, 23/08/2017 - 22:40

kadiz1

Joined:
2016-11-24

Hello (striver) day 81

Posted on:
Wed, 23/08/2017 - 22:50

Xenedra

Joined:
2017-08-16

I hear you Robf. And to a degree I get you...I was obviously looking for something when this addiction took hold.

However, gambling doesnt make anything better.

Even if your life is awful, gambling wont make it better, but NOT gambling willl stop it getting worse. I hope this makes sense.

Good luck, we are all here and we all know.

Posted on:
Wed, 23/08/2017 - 23:38

robf

Joined:
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I think people are thinking I don't approve of not gambling if you are a compulsive gambler. I'm not saying or trying to suggest that. I'm not planning on gambling nor do I want to see anyone else gamble here.

I think what prompted my post was something about this whole thread really rubs me up the wrong way. I don't care for these day count challenges but that's fine, I normally leave them to the people who do find them useful and don't comment on them. What's prompted me to comment here is the rather dubious connection between a abstinence based system of counting gamble free days with titles such as elders and gurus. These are all titles that people associate with knowledge, insight , growth, spirituality, being a teacher or master. These are weighty titles that are not easily earned and shouldn't be bestowed because you have gone a number of days without a bet. Spend a lifetime learning about addiction and helping people and you can if you felt like it,take the title of guru. Otherwise just leave this to what it is, a day count challenge that has nothing to do with any deeper understanding of the addiction we all face.

You might say why such hostility and negativity? I think it's important we don't make false idols of ourselves and other people and feel that's what this whole thread is promoting.

I admit this is my issue so I will keep out of this thread from now on and leave people to it.

Posted on:
Wed, 23/08/2017 - 23:49

Xenedra

Joined:
2017-08-16

I suppose your argument and the arguement for thes types of things are mutually exclusive and are not in the same sentence.

For example i am 7 days gamble free and I totally agree that abstience does not equal cure however in this time I am using this site and other resources to educate myself about this addiction. I am also setting goals for myself in my personal life to further my recovery (please see my post if you would like..in recovery diaries uploaded tonight). So when I see those that are X amount of days GF I do look up to them a tad as I think of how different my life could be in that time and if they can do it...it can be done.

At the same time I am a social worker and longevity in my chosen career is seen to be one of great value, we see social workers 10 years + as gurus and those 20 years + as elders however this does not equate good practice (trust me!!)

Soooooo I get you but at the moment I am clutching at anything to hold me accountable for my actions until I can figure this s**t out for myself.

:)

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Thu, 24/08/2017 - 00:27

Mixer

Joined:
2016-12-03

Dear Robf,

Thank you for cutting to the chase this time, pulling back the curtains with a showman's flourish, as it were, to let us know what really "grinds your gears". Always your perogative, of course!

I agree your opening sentence: I don't want to gamble and see other people gamble, either.

You talk about 'count challenges' in general and say they don't float your boat. Fair enough, fair dinkum, RobF; we all have, or are trying to find, different ways to control this insidious addiction: so, whatever soothes your soul.

You then get to the crux of the matter; the naming convention that's being used for the valiant souls who have attained 100 days or more gambling free - Elders and Gurus. You don't like 'em.

As Xenedra alludes in her excellent post above, these titles are not bestowed literally. Yes, the dictionary definitions most certainly point to the wisdom, insight and spirituality of these words if we are taking them literally, but - we're not. We don't.

They are rhetorical devices, a bit of fun but with a serious intent, to help inspire those of us that are trying to build up a long string of gambling-free days. They are, I like to think, interesting names marking hard-won targets; a bit more evocative than 100-days or 300-days (the non-linear gaps chosen, by the way, to make the earlier stages easier to climb to help maintain resolve).

And that's all it is, Robf. Yes, I appreciate it's not your cup of cocoa (loud and clear!) but others may respectfully disagree, or, indeed, agree. I really don't mind. 

All I care about, and all we care about on this challenge, is fostering a spirit of positivity and togetherness to help aspire as many gambling-free days for us as we can; hopefully - whisper it - forever. It's but one of oodles of different ways people may wish to try - whatever helps. 

As you say, why the hostility and negativity (you said it). I don't think anyone for a single moment is going to think of themselves as a false idol and I would say can easily understand the context. But here's a chance, Robf, to offer constructive criticism - do you have alternative 'titles' or names that could be used instead? I'm sincerely all-ears.

Thank you, in your conclusion, for making clear that this issue was your "beef" all along, and, as always, I wish you well. Let's hope we have both found our final exchanges carthertic and now move on  - there's bigger fish to fry, like tomorrow and making sure it's gambling free (regardless of whatever else life may throw at us, or give to us).

All the best, Mixer

 

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